I have taken this site as far as I can. Now it's time for new ideas,
new direction, and new energy. Welcome to David Wills, new webmaster!
- Chris Tolworthy, June 2000
site is an archive. All development from 30th June 2000 takes place at the
- April 2000: matter and spirit, and other deep topics
- March 2000: studied topics that offend some people
- February 2000: took an interest in human origins
- January 2000: started to respond to some critics
- November-December 1999: changed direction toward deeper topics
- August-October 1999: added more depth to the AD 570 prophecies
- January-July 1999: went off along a number of tangents
- Second half of 1998: investigated King Arthur, and added pages that
make the site more useful
- First half of 1998: The web site is born! The material
about AD 570 raised many other issues. So I created a web based guide to dated
- Early 1990s: Although I decided not to spend too much time
on my collection of Book of Mormon evidence, one item stuck out: the
material about AD 570. Nobody else seems to have looked at this issue. So
I decided to look into it in a little more detail. I thought I might expand
it to perhaps ten (printed) pages. Oh boy, I didn't know what I was letting
myself in for!
- Circa 1990: I revised my collection of Book of Mormon evidence,
with a view to eventually getting it published. Why did I begin this? Because
there was no convenient single source for all the evidence, so if no-one else
was going to publish one I thought I would give it a go. However, this coincided
with the rise of the internet and the growing dominance of FARMS. So the need
is being fulfilled. So I put the book idea on the back burner.
- 1984: This is where it all started. As a teenager in the
church I sometimes heard faith promoting evidence for the Book of Mormon.
But I did not know how reliable it was. So I decided to keep a record of every
REALLY GOOD piece of evidence I heard, and where I heard it, so I could spot
and ignore the vague and unsubstantiated rumors. I expected to find perhaps
thirty or so really good items. A few years later the list had grown to over
300, and I realized that I was on to something. (Download
the zipped document here).
Seen it all before? Maybe. But maybe you haven't seen these
Science and philosophy
- The science and philosophy
section does not contain many new ideas, but it does
contain material that seems to be hard to find on the web.
Statements by modern prophets
Where I disagree with the some
What's new about the little horn:
- The idea that AD570 was a critical point is not new. But
the massing of so much evidence in one place is
new. (It is mainly covered here,
- Identifying Europe as the "The
Little Horn" of Daniel chapter 7 may be new to
most people, but is implied in the general understanding
(a) the horn is the nations of the world,
(b) the dominant nations today trace their culture to
(c) the prophecies make more sense when applied to Europe
- For how this approach differs from other approaches,
including LDS approaches, click here.
- I reject some common theories
about the little horn, particularly about Antiochus IV.
- The application of 1260 literal days
to LDS history is new.
What's new about the Book of Mormon:
What's new elsewhere:
|| A New Approach
This is not the first web site about Daniel and Revelation.
But it is the first one that:
- Looks at the others first,
instead of pretending that this is the only way of
- Does not say "this is what it must mean",
but instead "this is the simplest
view, but I am not a prophet".
- Relies only on major events - the fall of Israel, the
start of the Dark Ages, the final restoration of the
gospel, that kind of thing.
- Gives major fulfillment's to all the prophetic
periods, and only uses dates that fit the
prophecies precisely. No glosses and approximations here!
- Highlights the LDS fulfillment in detail.
- Spends time on the history of late antiquity (the context
of AD 570)
The result is that you are the judge. This is not
the kind of web site that says "I am cleverer and more
inspired than you - trust my vast knowledge". I am just
suggesting some possibilities, in the absence of a definitive
prophetic word. More importantly, I am suggesting where a
definitive prophetic word would come from, were it to be
is Not New
Expounding, not expanding
We have to be very careful when commenting on scripture. I
want to draw attention to the marvelous prophecies, and
suggest some possible context. I do not want to add
anything. God has made clear that man is not to add to
scripture - he reserves that task for himself. I wish to expound
on the scriptures. I do not wish to expand on them.
I have tried hard not to give this web site the appearance
of authority, which is why (for example) I have removed most
of the footnotes. I have frequently
tried to draw the line between a commentator (who is not
inspired) and a prophet (who is). If you find areas where I
seem to have crossed this line, please tell me how and where,
and I will try to inject a bit more humility.
I have added a kind of biography and "my academic
credentials" to the "help"
page. I hope that kind of shows where I am coming from.
This must not contradict the prophets'
In developing this site, I have frequently checked it with
statements by apostles and prophets. All
I have done is provide uninspired evidence for these
doctrines. This often meant moving into related areas - for
example, a discussion of the "1260" period means we
need to identify the "little horn".
If I have contradicted the apostolic word at any point,
please tell me.
Thanks for reading. I hope this site is of value!